factorio boiler coal consumption

factorio boiler coal consumption

by mrvn » Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:23 pm, Post In fact I tend to use an excess of power generation relative to fuel anyway. It costs 30kJ energy to heat 1 unit of water to steam at 165°C, so one boiler will produce 60 steam per second. how much steam does it output to match up with your boilers? There is no added value to keep voluntarily an irrational ratio just to prevent people from achieving the perfect ratio build. nope, not wasteful. Type: stringDefault: "heat-water-inside" Factorio > General Discussions > Topic Details. The Steam engine lists its fluid consumption (30/s) maximum temp (165.00C) and maximum power output (900kW) which seems like all the info I need. 2017 Changes: - Slightly increased new boiler power consumption values. Version: 0.15.1 Date: 06. But adding more boilers and engines just isn't enough because still the same amount of coal is consumed only spread to more boilers, so you should fix your coal production to avoid such a problem in the future. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Now it's easy to calculate how much coal you're going to need per second to satisfy your power production. Type: uint32 Controls for how long the boiler will show the fire and fire_glow after the energy source runs out of energy. What he actually achieves by adding more boilers is having a coal buffer, highly inefficient that is. Since we're on the subject, is it wasteful to switch to solid fuel? by Ranakastrasz » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:36 pm, Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], republikanen, Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited. It doesn't matter how many boilers you have in the end (as long as it's enough boilers to generate that amount of power), it's all about the amount of coal coming in. (It should be more among the 1.93 KJ/(kg*K)). Otherwise, if 1 liter of steam doesn't weight 1 kg, where boiler loses other 27 liters of water it uses? by vanatteveldt » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:37 pm, Post So you can divide the Energy of your fuel with the energy consumption of your boiler and get the burning duration of that fuel. It can discharge very fast and is a much denser energy storage option compared to accumulators. I keep a coal buffer backup in a series of chests, in case coal supply dries up or gets shut down somehow, the boilers keep going. Just pump more from underground and feed the tech with pipe network and build the most glorious magic smoke pipe network spaghetti megabase, of course! (2) This assumes the crude oil is processed completely into solid fuel using advanced oil processing and heavy oil cracking as intermediate steps, but not light oil cracking. i am not wasting coal on anything besides plastic and grenades (for research). by BlueTemplar » Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:46 am, Post The fuel efficiency is exactly the same, but the fuel consumption per individual boiler and engine went up enormously. I've added more boilers and more engines but it still is consumed at almost the same rate (a bit slower). This thread is totally disrailed, but eh. My current set up makes solid fuel very easy to drop onto my current coal line (coincidentally). I'm as lost as you are. Also, you'll need accumulator arrays - even if you don't have any solar. One steam engine consumes 900kW of energy stored in steam, so each boiler can supply 2 steam engines: 1.8MW ÷ 0.9MW = 2. If you're talking about the total fuel consumption of a full power plant though, that should be unchanged and should only reflect how large your factory is... none of the machines had their energy costs changed. Anyone know how to calculate maximum speed of fuel usage by a steam boiler? The following is sarcasm:The boilers are consuming all your coal, so you added more boilers and that didn't solve your coal shortage? If your boilers' cold water bars aren't full, then you don't have enough pumps. I am going to run second setup like this but I am afraid that one belt is not enough to keep all these boilers running. One of "heat-water-inside" or "output-to-separate-pipe". If your boiler runs out of fuel, it will stop producing steam, but the engines won't stop (and cause a blackout) until they've consumed all of the existing steam that's left in the system. If you have 5 boilers providing all your power and you add 20 more, now you have 25 boilers providing all the power which means the consumption per boiler should, theoretically, be smaller. More efficient methods are possible. I'm also not a fan of perfect ratios. +1 for not everything needs to have perfect ratios. Once the system fills back up with steam, your boilers will be able to slow down and your fuel consumption should decrease drastically (assuming your system is not at full load.). Post Don't worry about over-building, just focus on your peak; your engines won't consume more steam than they need to to satisfy your current needs, and your boilers won't consume more fuel than they need to replace the steam being used by your engines. I truly hope he didn't got to have an electricity problem by not automating stuff. If not per boiler, per steam engine. is that per minute? 1 unit of steam is produced for each unit of water. by ssilk » Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:53 pm, Post When you then put more fuel in your boilers, your engines and steam pipes will be completely empty, so the boilers will try to fill them back up as fast as they possibly can, which means consuming fuel extremely quickly, like multiple coal per second. I have a mk2 boiler, 60% efficiency, using coal. Inserters can place (fuel) items into boilers, but can also remove items from them. Type: Energy. by Ranakastrasz » Wed Mar 06, 2019 5:49 pm, Post Steam engines per boiler: 2 [unchanged] Power per coal: 4 MJ Power consumption per boiler: 1.8MJ/s [=1.8MW] Water consumption per boiler: 60/s [=2x30/s] Water production per offshore pump: 1200/s Coal production per miner: 0.5 coal/s Yellow belt throughput: 15 coal/s [using both lanes] So, we get: Coal per boiler per second: 1.8/4=.45 Each steam engine needs 0.5 boilers when running at full capacity. < > Showing 1-14 of 14 comments . by Zavian » Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:23 am, Post The boilers will eat a ton of coal until they're full of steam again. Cookies help us deliver our Services. I just gave you one. There is a mismatch of information between the boiler and Steam engine. Boilers are now fast-replaceable with pipes. 05. =), One thing to keep in mind (not sure if this is related to your problem or not) is that a boiler's coal consumption per second is tied to the amount of steam that it's trying to output. by durzolr » Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:48 pm, Post And then you have a solid rocket fuel production for rockets and rocket trains. It is powered by coal on single red fast belt now which is fully compressed(1600/min). The boiler is used to convert water into steam. Apr 21, 2018 @ 4:54pm How to insert coal into a boiler? I suspect OP is feeding coal into boilers manually. by Hannu » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:00 pm, Post This issue becomes a lot more noticeable when you start messing with mods such as Bob's Power, that adds multiple levels of boiler/steam engine/steam turbine. Hey, so recently my power suddenly cut out. by Serenity » Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:44 am, Post by BlueTemplar » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:56 am, Post If both are full, but your electric needs still aren't satisfied, then you don't have enough engines. I guess that very dumb question but I can't figure it out. For burner energy sources, the light intensity will reach zero rather quickly after the boiler runs out of fuel, effectively capping the time that fire and fire_glow will be shown after the boiler runs out of fuel. Of course, feel free to correct if there are mistakes. It is used as fuel in burner machines and boilers. Once you hit around 40 MW+ you'll need over 24 coal miners for power alone. So if my choosen numbers would be correct a boiler MK2 would need 1 coal every 4 seconds or 0.25 coal/sec. In practice, the petroleum gasis more likely to be used for somethi… As described here , I believe a single entity would unify all aspects of improving steam power--both coal and nuclear--and that it's likely now or never (adding closed-loop later with a 3rd steam generator and new behavior would be hard to justify). Controls for how long the boiler will show the fire and fire_glow after the energy source runs out of energy. by Serenity » Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:23 pm, Post Boilers eat up lots of coal. Generally for power, I like to produce about 60-70% over normal running operations - really helps with expansions and surges. Coal has 4 MJ, so lasts about 2.22 seconds at full steam (Ha) and thus you can determine how long X coal lasts in a saturated power system. Maybe we're just getting better at the game and building bigger factories faster? Rinse and repeat until you have enough electricity to meet your peak demand. When the 5 goes to 4 the inserter will put another one in it. After that they'll go back to normal rates. I'm genuinely confused. I suspect OP is feeding coal into boilers manually. Yep, everyone's pointing to more coal. Type: table So I go look at my boilers and they are out of fuel. Heh, and use "smoke filters" to capture it from the air for logistics? The steam engines had their power output doubled in 0.15, so a single engine will consumes 2x as much coal and produce 2x as much power. It does feel much faster in 0.15, almost by several times. by Hannu » Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:06 am, Post Another thing to do is to power the miners off a separate power network. Alien water of Factorio is also bothering me from the beginning. Boilers only accept water, not steam. The general rule of thumb for steam power is: Build as many engines as you need to meet your peak power requirements, then build enough boilers and pumps to satisfy them. by astroshak » Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:29 am, Post

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